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2004: What might have been


In the final months of Peter Hadden's ownership of Pleasurewood Hills, plans were underway to introduce two new roller coasters to the park. These plans were never realised and soon after Grevin et Cie took control of the park.

Pleasurewood Hills have kindly provided Unofficial Pleasurewood with a designers mock-up which gives an insight into what might have been.



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Date: 20:16 Aug 19, 2014

Ah yes, that good old mystery of 2004! Glad too see some actual evidence of it finally.

Considering how the park felt very run down around that era, it surprises me that they had the finances for two new coasters, with one of them being a Vekoma SLC! Were there not any planning applications for them?

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Date: 22:43 Aug 19, 2014

You sure that's a SLC? Doesn't look right to me...

Still would have been awesome to see two big additions though! But, having said that - if we had got them, would we have ever seen Wipeout?

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Great to see these after I think we read somewhere on the net (Screamscape?) that Vekoma had confirmed the sale of two family coasters to Pleasurewood Hills at a trade show. This is great to see..would have shaped a very different future for the park if they had gone ahead (good or bad who knows). Fantastic material coming from the park, hopefully they find some more!

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Here's the original quote I found that I just took from the other thread:

 

Heres the original thread:

http://pleasurewoodhills.activeboard.com/t27527213/two-coasters-that-never-were/

 

During the show the sale of another Junior Coaster with 335 meters of track and a Family Suspended ride, both to Pleasurewood Hills in the UK, have be announced. The Family Suspended Coaster is the first installation of this kind in Europe (there are rides for example at Paramount´s in the US), offering a track length of 342 meters. Last but not least there will be a standard SLC for Magic Springs and Crystal Falls amusement park in the US.

 



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looks great yet am i the only one to notice the new coaster info isnt in english ?



-- Edited by coolskin on Wednesday 20th of August 2014 06:00:00 AM

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Date: 07:39 Aug 20, 2014

The leaflet was just a mock-up Coolskin. If things had progressed further, a description would have been added.

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The reason I mentioned SLC is that RCDB had it down as a custom SLC with two inversions: sidewinder and corkscrew. I remember that like it was yesterday.

But it does look like it was just going to be a family suspended coaster. In whcih case, I'm glad this didn't go ahead. At the time the park already had two family coasters in Rattlesnake and Cannonball Express, I can't see what adding two more mediocre family coasters would have done for the park.

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These coasters were brand new and probably cost a fair amount. Not knowing what business plan the Haddens had in mind it's difficult to tell but an investment of this size could have meant that the park would eventually been in too much debt not making enough money and could have closed. We know it was very close to succumbing a few years later. I think it was a good thing they didn't come but I'd love to see a clean fresh Vekoma family coaster to eventually replace SITG.

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Date: 19:54 Aug 20, 2014

Interesting, funny how things work out.

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Date: 05:57 Aug 21, 2014

so would be right in thinking that instead we got the magic mouse ? i forget now

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Date: 07:02 Aug 21, 2014

No that opened in 2000.

From what I remember, the Rollerskater was going where the Pony Rail is and Thunder express was going down by the Rattlesnake.

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crikey yes it was 2000.....wow

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Date: 13:36 Aug 21, 2014

I wonder if the Mouse was to make way for these in 2004? I know we can't see the entire leaflet, but I can see mentions for both Rattlesnake and Cannonball, not the Mouse.

Interestingly, we would have had the Cannonball Express and Thunder Express!

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Martyn wrote:

I wonder if the Mouse was to make way for these in 2004? I know we can't see the entire leaflet, but I can see mentions for both Rattlesnake and Cannonball, not the Mouse.


 An interesting point, Martyn. I didn't think of that. I have another scan of a different section of the same leaflet. Notice the absence of Magic Mouse.



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Not sure were the money was going to come from. I think things worked out for the better.


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Date: 20:18 Aug 22, 2014

^ Eventually, yes.

It would be interesting to speak to Mr Hadden about all this.

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Date: 23:32 Aug 22, 2014

I reckon a private investor was on board who must have pulled out to cause the sale of the park to Grevin and Cie or pulled out because of the sale.

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Date: 15:53 Aug 26, 2014

But the park wasn't sold until after, or during the 2004 season...?

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Date: 16:16 Aug 26, 2014

What I meant was I reckon The Haddens must have had investment of sorts, probably private, for the capital to buy 2 brand new rides. What I think then must have happened was for some reason the investment fell through and they then had to sell or potentially go bust and close. I think the sale to G and C was a result of it not happening in my opinion. I could be way off the mark though!

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Date: 20:36 Aug 26, 2014

Well as we've seen from that other thread, 2004 did see new additions; Fireball, Balloons and Kite flyer.

Very strange.

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Date: 22:27 Aug 26, 2014

Of course good point. Perhaps the sale of the park came out of nowhere (did G and C seek out the park or was it put up for sale?) and was too good to pass up on?

We'll probably never know what the reason was.

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Date: 13:23 Aug 27, 2014

Take a look at the full sample leaflet and map from 2004...



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Date: 13:50 Aug 27, 2014

Awesome! The map doesn't show where the new coasters would have been by the looks of it, although it's a really busy map! What are those Frisbee rides like? They look pretty good!

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the frisbee was good from what i remember...i need to get the photo of it off old nokia phone yet cant

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Date: 21:02 Aug 27, 2014

Omg, frisbees are disgusting! I only have to watch that Pendulus at Pleasure Island to feel sick! Have a look on Youtube. Gross!

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Date: 21:29 Aug 27, 2014

Although different style Drayton manors is good.

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See, the seats facing outwards makes all the difference, the Gyro swing (Maelstrom) at Drayton is amazing!

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Date: 21:45 Aug 27, 2014

Yeh give you that, like that ride

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