Pleasurewood Future

jayron7 · Woody Wannabe

Pleasurewood Future

Jools · Serious Squawker

So it's either Alton's new ride or something to do with the Chessington rumour, not going to be Flamingoland as they work in every 2 years, and they just got MJ, and I doubt it will be Thorpe as they just got SAW and wouldn't get another launch anyway, Drayton have rumours of a new ride, Oakwood I doubt, Paulton's is a nono, BPB, could be the replacment for RC but I doubt it, OH Maybe it could be Thorpe's replacment for XNWO, and they won't open it until 2011?
Me thinks it ain't Pleasurewood.

jayron7 · Woody Wannabe

Me hopes its Pleasurewood.

Anyway have a little faith Jools. Weren't you the guy that said PWH might be getting a mega-lite??

Maybe PWH are heading in a new direction. It certainly would be a good investment and would put PWH firmly on the map....

Jools · Serious Squawker

Yes, but that was only because the park said they were getting a bigger investment, and they had Goliath at Walibi World, and people kept saying it was a logical option, so I emailed the park and I got an email back saying it is a plausible option, but it's never been mentioned again, they don't have the space either, but I remember at one point they were trying to purchase the golf course next to it, which would double the size of the park.

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

Whilst the park should definetly get a new ride for next year (if they dont then I have no hope for the parks future), in my opinion this Mack coaster for the UK is for Alton Towers.

Mack's name has been mentioned a few times in the topic for Altons new coaster over at CF, and now this announcement....

-- Edited by Martyn on Wednesday 8th of April 2009 03:22:27 PM

Josh · Passionate about Pleasurewood

I don't think it's for AT. the reason being their new coaster next year definitely has a lift hill where the Mack coaster supposed to be coming to the UK is the launch version. Speculation at TT is it may be Drayton Manor getting it as they have stated a big investment for next year.

I really can't see it being PH who gets it but my goodness if it was it would put it on the map!!

datman · Serious Squawker

how noisy is a mack coaster?
the problem with pleasurewood is the residents of corton long lane complain to the council about noise levels, for those who dont know corton long lane runs along the back of the park
behind the castle and wavebreaker

even back in the 80,s when they built the ladybird roller coaster (now snake in the grass)
the tunnel was built to dull the noise of peole screaming going down the first curve, so i would imagine the residents would complain about any decent ride that the park wants to put in, i even recall seeing recently a picture somewhere on the net of a sign on wipeout saying please respect the residents of the area and refrain from screaming??

Josh · Passionate about Pleasurewood

Yeah that sign is funny! Must have been part of the planning consent:

Jools · Serious Squawker

I can imagine: "You can't build this coaster unless you put signs up telling people not to scream"

After construction:
"I heard that little girl screaming, we're not seath you know!"

lol, what they think it will work telling people not to scream XD

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

^ Its not a case of actually stopping people screaming.

It shows that the park are doing their bit in trying to keep noise to a minimum. They're not going to actually tell you off for screaming!lol

even back in the 80,s when they built the ladybird roller coaster (now snake in the grass)
the tunnel was built to dull the noise of peole screaming going down the first curve

Its funny you mention that. Pleasurewood had all this trouble getting planning permission for Wipeout due to noise issues, yet they have a coaster than can be heard from anywhere in the park, and as far out as the Tesco supermarket!

I think it would be a good idea if Pleasurewood done something about that, if they did, that would probably make the locals a bit happier and help with future planning.

-- Edited by Martyn on Thursday 9th of April 2009 02:20:37 PM

Jools · Serious Squawker

^ I know it was a joke, but oh well, it sucked.

About the Snake, why did they get rid of the end section of the tunnel anyway?

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

Sorry, going back to something that was mentioned earlier

Josh wrote:

I don't think it's for AT. the reason being their new coaster next year definitely has a lift hill where the Mack coaster supposed to be coming to the UK is the launch version.

Apparently the new coaster at Alton has a lift hill and a backward launched section. I'm still putting my money on Alton.

Is there any proof of Mack releasing this info?

Jools · Serious Squawker

^ Plus the track of the new Alton coaster looks like Blue Fire's which is a Mack launched, although so many manufacturers use that style: Intamin, Mack, Gerstlauer...

datman · Serious Squawker

Jools wrote:

^ I know it was a joke, but oh well, it sucked.

About the Snake, why did they get rid of the end section of the tunnel anyway?

Have they?
cant say i had noticed :) when i operated it back in the 80s there were no bushes in the middle and the tunnel was nice and fresh heck i can remember them spraying the wire netting with the foam to cover it all :)
as far as i can see it looks the same, cant see the exit of the tunnels due to the bushes theser days ,if they have removed some maybe its due to that part looking tatty and in need of repair ?
looking at the tunnel now it looks like it could all do with another coat of foam to patch the many small holes that now seep light into the tunnel and perhaps a new coat of paint?

datman · Serious Squawker

Martyn wrote:

^ Its not a case of actually stopping people screaming.

It shows that the park are doing their bit in trying to keep noise to a minimum. They're not going to actually tell you off for screaming!lol

even back in the 80,s when they built the ladybird roller coaster (now snake in the grass)
the tunnel was built to dull the noise of peole screaming going down the first curve

Its funny you mention that. Pleasurewood had all this trouble getting planning permission for Wipeout due to noise issues, yet they have a coaster than can be heard from anywhere in the park, and as far out as the Tesco supermarket!

I think it would be a good idea if Pleasurewood done something about that, if they did, that would probably make the locals a bit happier and help with future planning.

-- Edited by Martyn on Thursday 9th of April 2009 02:20:37 PM

the only thing that pleasurewood is doing to
abide by the council is the following.
not operating of the ride till after 10am ( so engineers cant test the ride untill the park is open)
as far as i know the following is also true,
the ride is only operated every 7.5 minutes (i have heard this may be changing)
so this will give long ques and slow load times.
well thinking about it there is not that much screaming on it and the only noise that is realy noticable is when the cars hit the brakes at the end of the ride
perhaps having the station/brakes inside a building would reduce the noise level??

as for making the locals more happy
i think the only thing that would make them truely happy is if the park closed :(

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

Have they?
cant say i had noticed

I think what Jools is on about is the old second tunnel that they removed. It used to be at the bottom of the second drop, which I'm sure you already no.

the only thing that pleasurewood is doing to
abide by the council is the following.
not operating of the ride till after 10am

Are you sure you dont mean after 11:30am? Theres a permanent sign up on the side of Wipeout's station saying "Wipeout will open today at 11.30" or something along them lines anyway.

well thinking about it there is not that much screaming on it and the only noise that is realy noticable is when the cars hit the brakes at the end of the ride

Whilst I agree that is noisy, I think theres more noise generated when the train engages with the chain, before going up, then dropping backwards.

Them signs about the screaming could be something Pleasurewood were told to put up, or they could have just done it to help themselves out.

One other thing to note about that sign, I'm glad they made them by sticking with the general Wipeout theme, using its official logo and font etc. The old Pleasurewood would have just made a poster from clipart!lol

-- Edited by Martyn on Friday 10th of April 2009 06:01:50 AM

Jools · Serious Squawker

^ Lol, so true

datman · Serious Squawker

Martyn wrote:

Are you sure you dont mean after 11:30am? Theres a permanent sign up on the side of Wipeout's station saying "Wipeout will open today at 11.30" or something along them lines anyway.

Nope definatly not :) the ride is safty tested a few minutes after 10 and then is running every 7.5 minutes :) (well it has been this week :) )

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

So whats with that sign saying it wont be open untill half 11?

datman · Serious Squawker

Martyn wrote:

So whats with that sign saying it wont be open untill half 11?

is that sign still there this season?
cant say i have noticed it ,then again i wouldnt know where to look :)

wipeout is still running everyday from about 10.10

jayron7 · Woody Wannabe

The sign was still there on bank holiday Monday. Also I timed between the runs and its more like five minutesrather than seven. You can see that the ride operators are in no hurry though.

One thing I can say is that this is one smooth boomerang!!! The only problem is two of the cars are not being used. The car from the front and second to last.

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

Just a quick question for datman, I take it work at Pleasurewood yeah? What is job can I ask?

datman · Serious Squawker

Martyn wrote:

Just a quick question for datman, I take it work at Pleasurewood yeah? What is job can I ask?

yes i work at pleasurewood part of the Attractions Team (or more commanly called ride operators)
worked there back in the 80s as a ride operator and now 21 years later back there again for the season (my how the whole place has changed since the 80s :) )

jayron7 · Woody Wannabe

One ride PH could do with is a rapids. I went on the Viking River Splash at Legoland last Tuesday. I was supposed to go Thorpe but when I got there the queue to get in was 2 hours long. I later heard the queue for Saw was 4 hours long!!!!!!!

Anyway the ridw was one of the better rapids I have ridden. The best has to be Popeye and Bluto at IOA, but this was decent enough. Would be a perfect family ride for PH. I'm sure there is enough space.

That is the one thing that annoys me about Pleasurewood. They do not take advantage of all the space they have. There are a lot bare patches and also its very flat. Thats the difference between PH and places like legoland, thorpe and Chessington. They make the most of there space. There is always something to capture peoples attention whether it be a building, a tree, a ride, a shop or whatever. There should be plenty to do to keep punters occupied, otherwise they become easily bored....

Josh · Passionate about Pleasurewood

I totally agree with you there Jayron. PH has been crying out for a Rapids ride and there is bags of room in my opinion. The park from Wipeout down to SITG is appalling in my opinion. The landscaping is dire, there is nothing to do and when you do get down there it looks a mess. I really wanna see PH do something massive next year.

datman · Serious Squawker

Josh wrote:

I totally agree with you there Jayron. PH has been crying out for a Rapids ride and there is bags of room in my opinion. The park from Wipeout down to SITG is appalling in my opinion. The landscaping is dire, there is nothing to do and when you do get down there it looks a mess. I really wanna see PH do something massive next year.

2 things that used to be always busy down in that area was the paddle boats on the lake and the big white tent that had massive seating area and sold drinks and food, why they got rid off a low cost maintainance attraction like the paddle boats beats me :) , especially as they have not done anything with that area.

Martyn · Passionate about Pleasurewood

I wouldn't expect to see anything 'massive' in that area. Like I suggested in that other topic, some Rapids, and nice Ferris Wheel in place of the rubbish Dodgems and a new food outlet would do that are wonders. Oh and an Intamin Gyro Swing where the Hungry Bears used to be ;)

Josh · Passionate about Pleasurewood

I don't see why they got rid of the paddle boats on the lake. They make the area look great, and I should imagine they are very low cost to run! At the moment the lake is looking pretty bare and something down there be a welcome change.

jayron7 · Woody Wannabe

I'm beginning to think that the owners of PH are not going to add a coaster unless its a relocated one, so I have been checking around on the net. I came across The Ozark Wildcat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5dg7CZs5KQ

This ride only ran for 5 years before the park, Celebration City, closed. It only cost $4,000,000 to build. What a waste of a coaster. I wonder how much it would cost to relocate to PH. I know I'm probably dreaming but this would be such a good investment for a park like Pleasurewood.

This would be perfect i'm telling you, perfect!!!!

Feel free to gun me down Martyn. Lol

Josh · Passionate about Pleasurewood

That does look like a really fun woodie and would love to see a ride like that at PH. However, I can't see a ride like that getting planning consent - wooden coasters are pretty noisy and that seems to be a big issue when it comes to PH. The cost of relocating such a big coaster, especially a wooden one (which is noway near as simple to dismantle and rebuild), would probably be massive.

:)